Two separate issues that were recently talked about on internet radio programs I listen to frequently, both current, both real threats to the foundations of America.
1. THE GLOBALIST THREAT TO AMERICAN SOVEREIGNTY THROUGH GUN CONTROL:
Chris Pinto is talking about the shooting in Aurora Colorado at the opening of the film The Dark Knight, and how this could play into the globalist agenda to restrict gun ownership in America. He gives historical background and statistics.
Scott Johnson, talking about the same event in Colorado, brings in the possibility that it was staged. He gives evidence of the participation of a second party that the mainstream media aren't talking about.
2. THE TROJAN HORSE OF CONSERVATISM IN TODAY'S CHURCHES:
Brannon Howse's program on Worldview Weekend for July 25th is covering Glenn Beck's Restoring Love Rally coming up on the 28th, as well as a separate event that features some well-known evangelical leaders along with various wolves in sheep's clothing that is billed as somehow connected with though not part of Glenn Beck's rally.
Of particular interest to me in this discussion is the clip of former Mormon leader and US political leader Ezra Taft Benson speaking to a Mormon gathering back in 1965 (Howse keeps putting it up in the 70s), an impassioned patriotic talk that denounces "godless communism" and quotes Mormon documents as equal to scripture. He calls the American Constitution divinely inspired and invokes the prophecy of Joseph Smith that says the Mormon Church is going to save the endangered Constition. Well, there's no doubt it's endangered now and has been for a long time, but do we want it saved by Mormonism? Are evangelicals today that corrupted and misled?
The Worldview Weekend talk will be available without charge for only two weeks as usual, but parts of the talk by Benson can be found at You Tube and a fuller version here.
As I listened to this I just kept thinking Why did I have to wait until 2012 when we have a Mormon running for President and a very popular Mormon talk show host speaking for conservatism, to begin to grasp the connection between conservatism and Mormonism and what a threat it is to America? Every day it seems I learn something new that I should have heard of years ago if the Church had been doing its work of warning us. I did learn about the false teaching of Mormonism in general, but not its political agenda.
I had an email relationship for years with a Mormon with whom I could agree on political issues just about totally, but we battled to the death (of our friendship) about the nature of the gospel. Same with an orthodox Jew I'd also met online. I liked both of these men a great deal and agreed with both of them politically, but my determined defense of the gospel finally brought our friendship to an end in both cases. It was a great opportunity to hone my biblical skills and I only wish the Lord had seen fit to use my efforts to save these men but it wasn't to be -- at that time anyway.
There is a huge Catholic presence in conservatism these days as well, and the same situation applies. We can join on political issues but we must part company when it comes to the gospel.
MUST. And what Glenn Beck has been doing is promoting not just a political coalition of conservatives but a religious and spiritual coalition in which he aggressively asserts unity between Mormons and Catholics and true Christians, and Christians are falling for it, some of them joining with him in his aggressive ecumenicism.
Brannon Howse's discussion focuses on the compromises within the evangelical church in the service of patriotism and conservatism.
There is no hope for America unless the Church is strong and true to the gospel, politics is useless without this. A compromised ecumenical Church is useless, even just another cause for God to bring punishment against the nation.
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Thursday, July 26, 2012
Wednesday, February 29, 2012
Revelations about the ANTI-Christian beliefs of the Founders and deceptions about Christian America that many are falling for these days
Revelations about the anti-Christian beliefs of the American founding fathers, that I first discovered through a film by Chris Pinto at You Tube, are very disturbing to a conservative patriotic American Christian. But I'm now convinced that these revelations are really as important as Jonathan Cahn's about God's message to America in events surrounding 9/11. The deceptions that contemporary Christians fall into come at us from every direction these days, and unfortunately they are so utterly unexpected and Christians so woefully unprepared to stand against them, that most of us fall into at least some of them.
I certainly fell for the patriotic Christian view of the founding fathers that has been promoted particularly by David Barton over the last couple of decades. You must be convinced, if you watch Chris Pinto's revelations, that Barton was not playing with a full deck in his claims that America's founders were true Christians. Whether he fooled himself as well isn't clear, but now he's supporting Glenn Beck the Mormon as a "Christian" and has become thoroughly untrustworthy whether his misguided views are intentional or he is deceived himself.
Barton's claims are trusted and propagated still by most Christians, and Glenn Beck himself is also a strong propagator of the "Christian" basis of America, which I too accepted as true, although knowing Beck is a Mormon ought to be a warning in itself that something may not be quite right about what he's promoting. Beck is a very talented and convincing spokesman for American conservatism and patriotism. It really kind of takes the wind out of you to begin to see through such apparently righteous opinions to hidden deceptions. The whole Christian-Founders position needs to be exposed as deception. Truly Satan presents himself as "an angel of light."
Need to add here that this doesn't mean that America is not Christian in a very basic sense nevertheless, as the original settlers were genuine Christians, the Pilgrims and Puritans. But their Christian beliefs were betrayed by the generation of the Revolution and the Founding of the nation. These revelations have got me wondering why it is that God has so clearly blessed America, as He truly has, up until fairly recently, and it must be because of the Christian beliefs and lives of the original settlers as well as the majority of the population.
There is also the fact that the founders DID insist on prayer for the nation, recognizing the sovereign power of God and the need to trust Him for the nation's success. Even Benjamin Franklin called for prayer in Congress to assure God's favor on the proceedings, and he was among the least Christian of the founders. That prayer was so prominent on their agenda is puzzling after you realize just how anti-Christian the main leaders were -- which is revealed in Pinto's films on the subject. But the Deists of those days apparently believed in a God who hears prayer, they just didn't believe in Christ as God Himself and salvation through His death and resurrection, which is made only too clear in Pinto's films. It does seem to be the case that God heard George Washington's inaugural prayers for the nation that were made from that little chapel at the corner of Ground Zero that is a big part of Jonathan Cahn's revelations about 9/11, and that the blessings that God had bestowed on this nation dedicated to God in so many ways were rescinded by God at the very same place on 9/11.
Puzzling. Uncanny. Disturbing. Breath-taking really.
As far as I know, the revelations originated with Chris Pinto, but they have recently been taken up by Brannon Howse of Worldview Weekend as well. He is doing a three-part radio series -- the second aired today and the third will air tomorrow -- on a film made by Kirk Cameron that is to come out at the end of March titled Monumental, which is about a little-known monument to the founding fathers of America that claims to reflect the beliefs of the Pilgrim settlers of America. As Howse, Pinto and Decker make clear, that monument is utterly pagan in all its imagery, and was established by Masons, reflecting Masonic beliefs about "God" and has nothing Christian about it at all. An open Bible is part of it but "God" is presented as the generic "higher power" rather than the God of the Bible, and the Masons could just as easily have put a Koran in its place. If the Pilgrims had been around when this monument was created they would have denounced it as a work of Satan.
They would also most likely have denounced the generation of the Revolution and the Founders as followers of Satan.
Sobering stuff. Important stuff.
Chris Pinto also discusses this on his radio show for 2/29/11, titled Council of Trent And More, which is an interesting subject in itself, but most of the broadcast he spends discussing Kirk Cameron's film he'd also been discussing on the Worldview Weekend broadcast I've linked above.
This is a perfect, a classic, example of how Christians can be deceived. It's important to know about this.
Brannon Howse's broadcasts are only available free to the public for 14 days after airing, and then they become part of his archives that you have to subscribe to. Pinto's broadcasts I believe are free at any time.
There are plenty of "watchmen" or "discernment" type ministries out there that have also aimed to "expose" such Masonic and pagan roots of the American founding, but in my experience some of them are themselves so untrustworthy I have trouble taking them seriously even though some of what they say may be true. Their "evidence" is often incomplete, sometimes little more than circumstantial, often accusing people of guilt by association. They jump to conclusions without really proving the conclusions justified by the facts, although they themselves are thoroughly convinced by what seem to them to be sufficient facts, even saying things like "it's a no-brainer to me." Seems to me there is plenty of reason to think they are just being carried away, and worse, accusing true Christians of intentional deception that is not warranted. They show little concern that by trusting in their own personal grasp of the facts they may be accusing a true brother in Christ of intentional deception who is himself merely led away by a deception -- which any of us can be these days. I've heard too many true Christians denounced by such incautious "ministries" even as "devils" to the point I can barely take any of it seriously any more and just have to pray for the teacher who is behaving like a bull in a china shop, and possibly dangerously worse than that, letting himself be overcome by emotion through lack of complete knowledge and in fact setting himself up against God without knowing it.
But Chris Pinto's revelations about the founding fathers just blew me away with his careful mustering of evidence and objective attitude. Brannon Howse also has the same attitude and is very careful to acknowledge that Kirk Cameron is a true brother in Christ although he is trying to show that he is deceived about the meaning of this monument he has been championing in the film about it.
Here's a page on the program at Worldview Weekend:
I certainly fell for the patriotic Christian view of the founding fathers that has been promoted particularly by David Barton over the last couple of decades. You must be convinced, if you watch Chris Pinto's revelations, that Barton was not playing with a full deck in his claims that America's founders were true Christians. Whether he fooled himself as well isn't clear, but now he's supporting Glenn Beck the Mormon as a "Christian" and has become thoroughly untrustworthy whether his misguided views are intentional or he is deceived himself.
Barton's claims are trusted and propagated still by most Christians, and Glenn Beck himself is also a strong propagator of the "Christian" basis of America, which I too accepted as true, although knowing Beck is a Mormon ought to be a warning in itself that something may not be quite right about what he's promoting. Beck is a very talented and convincing spokesman for American conservatism and patriotism. It really kind of takes the wind out of you to begin to see through such apparently righteous opinions to hidden deceptions. The whole Christian-Founders position needs to be exposed as deception. Truly Satan presents himself as "an angel of light."
Need to add here that this doesn't mean that America is not Christian in a very basic sense nevertheless, as the original settlers were genuine Christians, the Pilgrims and Puritans. But their Christian beliefs were betrayed by the generation of the Revolution and the Founding of the nation. These revelations have got me wondering why it is that God has so clearly blessed America, as He truly has, up until fairly recently, and it must be because of the Christian beliefs and lives of the original settlers as well as the majority of the population.
There is also the fact that the founders DID insist on prayer for the nation, recognizing the sovereign power of God and the need to trust Him for the nation's success. Even Benjamin Franklin called for prayer in Congress to assure God's favor on the proceedings, and he was among the least Christian of the founders. That prayer was so prominent on their agenda is puzzling after you realize just how anti-Christian the main leaders were -- which is revealed in Pinto's films on the subject. But the Deists of those days apparently believed in a God who hears prayer, they just didn't believe in Christ as God Himself and salvation through His death and resurrection, which is made only too clear in Pinto's films. It does seem to be the case that God heard George Washington's inaugural prayers for the nation that were made from that little chapel at the corner of Ground Zero that is a big part of Jonathan Cahn's revelations about 9/11, and that the blessings that God had bestowed on this nation dedicated to God in so many ways were rescinded by God at the very same place on 9/11.
Puzzling. Uncanny. Disturbing. Breath-taking really.
As far as I know, the revelations originated with Chris Pinto, but they have recently been taken up by Brannon Howse of Worldview Weekend as well. He is doing a three-part radio series -- the second aired today and the third will air tomorrow -- on a film made by Kirk Cameron that is to come out at the end of March titled Monumental, which is about a little-known monument to the founding fathers of America that claims to reflect the beliefs of the Pilgrim settlers of America. As Howse, Pinto and Decker make clear, that monument is utterly pagan in all its imagery, and was established by Masons, reflecting Masonic beliefs about "God" and has nothing Christian about it at all. An open Bible is part of it but "God" is presented as the generic "higher power" rather than the God of the Bible, and the Masons could just as easily have put a Koran in its place. If the Pilgrims had been around when this monument was created they would have denounced it as a work of Satan.
They would also most likely have denounced the generation of the Revolution and the Founders as followers of Satan.
Sobering stuff. Important stuff.
Chris Pinto also discusses this on his radio show for 2/29/11, titled Council of Trent And More, which is an interesting subject in itself, but most of the broadcast he spends discussing Kirk Cameron's film he'd also been discussing on the Worldview Weekend broadcast I've linked above.
This is a perfect, a classic, example of how Christians can be deceived. It's important to know about this.
Brannon Howse's broadcasts are only available free to the public for 14 days after airing, and then they become part of his archives that you have to subscribe to. Pinto's broadcasts I believe are free at any time.
There are plenty of "watchmen" or "discernment" type ministries out there that have also aimed to "expose" such Masonic and pagan roots of the American founding, but in my experience some of them are themselves so untrustworthy I have trouble taking them seriously even though some of what they say may be true. Their "evidence" is often incomplete, sometimes little more than circumstantial, often accusing people of guilt by association. They jump to conclusions without really proving the conclusions justified by the facts, although they themselves are thoroughly convinced by what seem to them to be sufficient facts, even saying things like "it's a no-brainer to me." Seems to me there is plenty of reason to think they are just being carried away, and worse, accusing true Christians of intentional deception that is not warranted. They show little concern that by trusting in their own personal grasp of the facts they may be accusing a true brother in Christ of intentional deception who is himself merely led away by a deception -- which any of us can be these days. I've heard too many true Christians denounced by such incautious "ministries" even as "devils" to the point I can barely take any of it seriously any more and just have to pray for the teacher who is behaving like a bull in a china shop, and possibly dangerously worse than that, letting himself be overcome by emotion through lack of complete knowledge and in fact setting himself up against God without knowing it.
But Chris Pinto's revelations about the founding fathers just blew me away with his careful mustering of evidence and objective attitude. Brannon Howse also has the same attitude and is very careful to acknowledge that Kirk Cameron is a true brother in Christ although he is trying to show that he is deceived about the meaning of this monument he has been championing in the film about it.
Here's a page on the program at Worldview Weekend:
Wednesday, February 22, 2012
The growing apostasy makes revival risky
More Christians are recognizing the validity of Jonathan Cahn's revelation of God's messages to America about 9/11, which ought to herald a great awakening beginning with the repentance of the churches. That and only that could prevent God's judgments against America that the "harbingers" are all about, and lead to the recovery of God's blessings on the nation. And I'm still doing what I can to promote it simply because this is truly God's own word to us.
At the same time it is so clear that the churches are going off in so many false directions these days my old forbodings about a false revival are coming back in force, and it's becoming hard to welcome any revival at all, even one that would come in response to these uncanny revelations of God's judgments against the nation.
I think it was A. W. Tozer I first heard say something along these lines. There are times when the condition of the churches makes revival a bad idea.
I've been willing to accept that the Brownsville "revival" of a decade or so ago was most likely truly from God despite my initial misgivings, because of a few people who seemed to be having genuine experiences, although I still have to question others, and if the questionable ones were all I'd seen I wouldn't have been so convinced it was from God.
In any case it seems like a "weak" revival, heavy on the physical phenomena that former true revivals always played down. We don't need more of those. We need revival that majors in repentance for the sins of the churches and the sins of the nation and a return to pure doctrine, and a revived national moral conscience that comes as a consequence of the purification of the churches.
But even as I contemplate that as the desired direction I'm aware of all the false movements growing up these days that would be waiting in the wings to co-opt any such move of the Spirit and turn it into a false revival that would be extremely hard to distinguish from the true.
Right now we've got politicians and pundits who preach policies a true conservative Christian wants to hear and yet they are Catholics and Mormons. Two of the Republican candidates are Catholics, one is a Mormon. Then there is Glenn Beck who is a popular and very articulate spokesman for conservative politics, but his Mormonism, and now his Mormonism aligning itself with Catholicism as well, is becoming blatantly obviously his main agenda. He'd turn revival to purposes a true Christian couldn't welcome. And he keeps calling for a revival too, again no revival a Christian could welcome. David Barton, former champion of evangelical hopes for the revival of a supposedly once-Christian nation, has sadly joined with Glenn Beck and dashed all such hopes for anyone who has a solid Biblical basis. Any revival that got co-opted by these false religionists would become a false revival in the service of false religion, mislead people away from Christ and the nation closer to judgment.
There are many supposed evangelicals who have already proved their lack of discernment by embracing both Mormons and Catholics as genuine Christians, evangelicals who denounce the true evangelicals who do have good Biblical discernment and refuse to link with Mormonism and Catholicism, as "haters" who fail at the most basic requirement of Christian love. And there are some who reject Mormonism but accept Catholicism, to make it even more complicated, such as Franklin Graham, following after his father Billy Graham.
With that kind of twistedness out there, my hope for a genuine revival is foundering and I'm beginning to see the "harbinger" revelations, that should be the catalyst to true revival, instead as God's witnesses against America that are going to stand against the nation to the last day. What could have inspired the purification the churches need probably shouldn't happen even if it could at this point, so the nation can only continue to deteriorate under God's judgments while the global-minded church keeps building the platform for the rise of the Antichrist.
Now I'm more inclined in the direction of wanting to see what's left of the true churches and true Christians be strengthened in Biblical foundations, so we can "stand in that evil day" maybe manage to shout truth into the storm as it swirls around us -- if we're still here when it breaks.
At the same time it is so clear that the churches are going off in so many false directions these days my old forbodings about a false revival are coming back in force, and it's becoming hard to welcome any revival at all, even one that would come in response to these uncanny revelations of God's judgments against the nation.
I think it was A. W. Tozer I first heard say something along these lines. There are times when the condition of the churches makes revival a bad idea.
I've been willing to accept that the Brownsville "revival" of a decade or so ago was most likely truly from God despite my initial misgivings, because of a few people who seemed to be having genuine experiences, although I still have to question others, and if the questionable ones were all I'd seen I wouldn't have been so convinced it was from God.
In any case it seems like a "weak" revival, heavy on the physical phenomena that former true revivals always played down. We don't need more of those. We need revival that majors in repentance for the sins of the churches and the sins of the nation and a return to pure doctrine, and a revived national moral conscience that comes as a consequence of the purification of the churches.
But even as I contemplate that as the desired direction I'm aware of all the false movements growing up these days that would be waiting in the wings to co-opt any such move of the Spirit and turn it into a false revival that would be extremely hard to distinguish from the true.
Right now we've got politicians and pundits who preach policies a true conservative Christian wants to hear and yet they are Catholics and Mormons. Two of the Republican candidates are Catholics, one is a Mormon. Then there is Glenn Beck who is a popular and very articulate spokesman for conservative politics, but his Mormonism, and now his Mormonism aligning itself with Catholicism as well, is becoming blatantly obviously his main agenda. He'd turn revival to purposes a true Christian couldn't welcome. And he keeps calling for a revival too, again no revival a Christian could welcome. David Barton, former champion of evangelical hopes for the revival of a supposedly once-Christian nation, has sadly joined with Glenn Beck and dashed all such hopes for anyone who has a solid Biblical basis. Any revival that got co-opted by these false religionists would become a false revival in the service of false religion, mislead people away from Christ and the nation closer to judgment.
There are many supposed evangelicals who have already proved their lack of discernment by embracing both Mormons and Catholics as genuine Christians, evangelicals who denounce the true evangelicals who do have good Biblical discernment and refuse to link with Mormonism and Catholicism, as "haters" who fail at the most basic requirement of Christian love. And there are some who reject Mormonism but accept Catholicism, to make it even more complicated, such as Franklin Graham, following after his father Billy Graham.
With that kind of twistedness out there, my hope for a genuine revival is foundering and I'm beginning to see the "harbinger" revelations, that should be the catalyst to true revival, instead as God's witnesses against America that are going to stand against the nation to the last day. What could have inspired the purification the churches need probably shouldn't happen even if it could at this point, so the nation can only continue to deteriorate under God's judgments while the global-minded church keeps building the platform for the rise of the Antichrist.
Now I'm more inclined in the direction of wanting to see what's left of the true churches and true Christians be strengthened in Biblical foundations, so we can "stand in that evil day" maybe manage to shout truth into the storm as it swirls around us -- if we're still here when it breaks.
Saturday, August 28, 2010
America: another worldly prop pulled out from under us
I wrote about Glenn Beck and his Restoring Honor rally at Faith's Corner earlier today but I want to say a few words about it here too.
As a political conservative I enjoy Glenn Beck and wish I could support him. For the most part I have supported him, at least tacitly, because I like his general take on our political mess. But as today's rally approached I found myself feeling less than enthused. I watched some of it, a couple hours worth I think, and kept having this unhappy feeling about it, slight but definitely there. I WANT to support this. There are some genuine Christians there after all. I love Alveda King for instance. I love David Barton for instance (I missed his talk though, also missed Sarah Palin's).
So I had to come to terms with my own oddly conflicted feelings. I had to think hard about it. He's a Mormon. Does that REALLY matter when he's doing such a good job, a job nobody else is doing, of defending the political causes that matter to me, to the Right? Clearly some Christians say it doesn't matter. Some are up on that stage, many are no doubt among the throng below.
Do they know what Mormons believe? I wonder. But I have to admit that it doesn't matter whether they know or not, some of us DO know and Christians absolutely cannot align ourselves with them. The more I thought about it the more clearly I saw that there's no way a Christian can join with Beck in his religious assertions. Politics, patriotism, OK up to a point, but the Restoring Honor rally was full of God talk, pretty generic nondenominational type God talk, but still I KNOW what Mormons believe, I know they don't mean what I mean with that God talk. I CAN'T join with Mormons on the subject of God. Absolutely cannot.
It's hard for us who have been so strongly supporting the conservative cause, and really do want God back in American life - but we do NOT want the Mormon God and that's what Beck represents.
Another worldly hope, another idolatry for us to let go of, I believe that's what this is. It's a hard one to give up, very hard, but after thinking about it all day I've managed to separate myself from it bit by bit. God wants all of us, not part of us, He doesn't want to share us even with America and He's making that harder and harder for us these days. That's what I think now. The Left wants us marginalized and they're doing a great job of it too. Islam is on the ascendancy. It shouldn't be too long before Christians have just about no moorings left in this world.
That's when our faith is going to be tested for sure.
As a political conservative I enjoy Glenn Beck and wish I could support him. For the most part I have supported him, at least tacitly, because I like his general take on our political mess. But as today's rally approached I found myself feeling less than enthused. I watched some of it, a couple hours worth I think, and kept having this unhappy feeling about it, slight but definitely there. I WANT to support this. There are some genuine Christians there after all. I love Alveda King for instance. I love David Barton for instance (I missed his talk though, also missed Sarah Palin's).
So I had to come to terms with my own oddly conflicted feelings. I had to think hard about it. He's a Mormon. Does that REALLY matter when he's doing such a good job, a job nobody else is doing, of defending the political causes that matter to me, to the Right? Clearly some Christians say it doesn't matter. Some are up on that stage, many are no doubt among the throng below.
Do they know what Mormons believe? I wonder. But I have to admit that it doesn't matter whether they know or not, some of us DO know and Christians absolutely cannot align ourselves with them. The more I thought about it the more clearly I saw that there's no way a Christian can join with Beck in his religious assertions. Politics, patriotism, OK up to a point, but the Restoring Honor rally was full of God talk, pretty generic nondenominational type God talk, but still I KNOW what Mormons believe, I know they don't mean what I mean with that God talk. I CAN'T join with Mormons on the subject of God. Absolutely cannot.
It's hard for us who have been so strongly supporting the conservative cause, and really do want God back in American life - but we do NOT want the Mormon God and that's what Beck represents.
Another worldly hope, another idolatry for us to let go of, I believe that's what this is. It's a hard one to give up, very hard, but after thinking about it all day I've managed to separate myself from it bit by bit. God wants all of us, not part of us, He doesn't want to share us even with America and He's making that harder and harder for us these days. That's what I think now. The Left wants us marginalized and they're doing a great job of it too. Islam is on the ascendancy. It shouldn't be too long before Christians have just about no moorings left in this world.
That's when our faith is going to be tested for sure.
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