Fraud Fraud Fraud and More Fraud (but remember, God's allowing it as judgment)

Good post by one of the bloggers at Geeeez on the various reasons to suspect that the election of Obama was "engineered" shall we say, both this election and the 2008 election and that in fact Obama's entire career was engineered. Fraud fraud fraud.

I personally know of some people who are involved in the investigations of the most recent voter fraud in this election, but also the election that kept Harry Reid in office when Sharron Angle had the votes. Can it be proved? Well, even if it can be the proof will be attacked, twisted, smeared and "discredited" by more fraud. A few of us will know it for what it is, but is it going to matter?

Chris Pinto's radio show for the 19th dealt with the film made BY DEMOCRATS after Obama's election in '08 about voter fraud then that disenfranchised Hillary Clinton who by their reckoning rightly won the nomination.

This is terrible judgment indeed, Lord, will you never have mercy on us again, is it all over for good?

On this note, Geeez also has a post from yesterday quoting from Foursquare pastor and president Jack Hayford on how the Church is to blame for all this, and while I believe he's right in general I don't think he's seen the whole problem, about Christians who don't keep separate from the world and from false teachers which I've posted on recently.  In fact his own denomination is highly questionable in itself as well as in its acceptance of Catholicism, the likes of Benny Hinn and other apostate groups.

We're dead

This says it for the conservative side
Nov. 10: More good stuff from Geeeeez on this subject

Why is the Nation so Polarized? (No real mystery)

That's what the headline at Yahoo asks. And we ARE that polarized. There is just about NO agreement between the two sides and there is plenty of rancor on both sides toward the other. Here's the story at Yahoo, It's a 50-50 Nation Give or Take

There are about 20 thousand comments there already but I can't wade through that lot.  Lot of opinion that the media has caused the divide.

I think it's pretty obvious myself.  The country has been getting more and more polarized by the push against Christian and traditional values that were held by a majority from the founding, the push that picked up big momentum in the sixties and keeps on going, fueled by propaganda that characterizes us as "haters" rather than the defenders of truth we are -- defenders of truth, social order, righteousness, which scripture says "exalts a nation" and certainly protects a nation against God's wrath;  the "salt" that keeps a nation from succumbing to rot through the fallen nature.  Now the nation is wide open for God's wrath.

The form of it that got up such a head of steam in the sixties, with all the "liberation" movements, should really be characterized as The Sin Liberation Movement as a whole.   We're now "liberated" to commit sexual sins with impunity that were opposed by ALL societies throughout history, though most strongly in Christian societies, until the last few decades, and "liberated" to murder our unborn babies, calling it "choice," etc.  "Liberated" BY THE GOVERNMENT you know.  If gay marriage becomes law it will be the GOVERNMENT sanctioning it, and it's primarily what the leadership does that calls down God's judgment against a nation. 

Opposition to this trend is what they are calling "hate" on the other side.  They'd kill us for our "hate."

A Christian absolutely CANNOT give in on these things and there are apparently quite a few nonbeliever traditionalists who feel the same way so far. That includes socialism versus free enterprise because socialism is basically theft by the government which is a violation of God's law. Name it, it's along these lines we are polarized. Good versus evil I call it.

The Nation Voted for Judgment

In response to another conservative, whose opinion you can figure out from the response:

I agree the nation chose judgment, but in my opinion Romney would at best have been Judgment Lite anyway, a slower road to judgment. 

At one point he voted for late term abortion himself and for gay marriage.   The man changed with the wind.  Overall it seems he would have been better for the country, that his election would mean God was blessing us at least to some extent, but we have to remember that Romney also represents rejection of God and apostasy of the Church simply by being a Mormon.  One might say Obama's closet Muslim beliefs are worse but I'm not completely sure, in God's eyes.  Mormonism is a false representation of God, of Jesus Christ, of the gospel of salvation, even in a more direct and blasphemous way than Islam is, or at least AS bad.  (By the way there is an old book called Mormonism, America's Islam, sorry don't remember much about it I'll have to look it up). 

Our merely being stuck with the choice between Obama and Romney already demonstrates that the nation IS under judgment, or it could be said that in itself the choice IS judgment, both candidates representing God's displeasure with this nation.  In many ways Romney looked a lot better to conservative eyes, but I wonder if conservative eyes see much the way God's eyes do.

BUT I have to admit that we haven't had a President in many many years that could be said to have been in God's will anyway.  I won't speculate how far back.  We've been under judgment a long time. 

Again, the best Romney would have been is a slower approach to an increasingly horrible Judgment.

And then there's the further proof that we're on the slide to oblivion in the fact that Colorado and Washington legalized RECREATIONAL MARIJUANA.  Well, they don't know what they are doing, poor blind fallen people, but how fast we've slid toward the abode of demons!   Oh once-Christian America. 

I've got to admit I would have felt relieved if Romney had won but I'm not sure why or, to be more accurate, given what I've said above, it couldn't be a rational response.

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3 PM Everybody I've heard from today has said, almost in the same words, "we're done, it's over."  America is gone forever.  The Obama people have no clue.  it's going to hit them too eventually.